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The HSG

At some point, while undergoing infertility treatment (I had mine back in August 2017), you'll probably have an HSG (hysterosalpingogram).  This is a test they do to see if your fallopian tubes are open.  If your fallopian tubes are blocked, there's no way for an egg to travel to the uterus, meaning no way for you to get pregnant.  Obviously that would be a roadblock!

Essentially they inject your uterus with a dye and then look at it live under x-ray to see if it travels through the fallopian tubes.  It's a very quick procedure and you're able to do all your normal activities that same day.  I think I took some ibuprofen right after as a preventative measure because some people experience cramping.

For the procedure itself, it was very easy for me!  I felt a pinch when the catheter went in (through the uterus) but that was really it.  Some women experience severe cramping and state the procedure is very uncomfortable, but I really hardly felt anything at all!  Not sure if I'm just lucky or had a really good PA doing the procedure.  I'm grateful regardless!





So this picture is showing the speculum at the bottom, the little dark triangle area is the uterus and then there are dark little lines coming off the sides of the uterus that are the fallopian tubes.  The dark cloudy areas on the sides are the dye coming out of the fallopian tubes.

As I had this done prior to Starbucks even being in the picture, I'm not sure how it's covered by insurance but I assume it's covered the same as every other infertility procedure!


Making the Insurance Decision

After looking at all of the financial options, you will need to finally pick an insurance carrier!  I've decided to compile a list of things you should ask and find out when choosing which carrier to go with.


  1.  Are they in-network with your fertility clinic?  If you plan on keeping the insurance for a while, also make sure they are in-network with your OBGYN.
  2. Are they in-network with the other "players" aka embryology lab, anesthesia, lab for bloodwork etc.
  3. How much of the $15,000 will be used with one round of IVF?
  4. Does the insurance offer additional money for medications?
  5. Do they require pre-authorization for any procedures?
  6. Do they require IUIs or other treatment prior to IVF?
  7. Do they require you to fill your medications at a specific pharmacy?
  8. What has your clinic's experience been when sending claims to the carrier?
  9. Are you planning on using donor eggs/ sperm/ embryos or having genetic testing done?  Not all insurances cover these.
  10. What is the cost per paycheck?  Do you plan on using your entire paycheck for insurance or do you want to have money left over?

As I think of more questions, I will try to add them on here!  Many of these topics are discussed in other posts in detail.

Figuring out Finances: Medications

This is part two of figuring out finances.  Your clinic will be able to give you information regarding costs for your clinic, but they are not a pharmacy and have no idea what your medications will cost.  Don't even bother asking them.

At your IVF consult you should ask for a copy of what medications you will be on.  Even if they don't give you the actual prescriptions at this point, you should see if they can give you an idea of the medications and dose they expect you to be on.

A major factor in choosing an insurance plan is what they offer for medication benefits.  As I mentioned in a previous post, BCBS, Aetna, and UHC all offered an additional $5,000 for medications on top of the $15,000 for medical.  Cigna did not offer the additional $5,000.  Also, as you will recall, I warned you that $5,000 is not as much as it seems.

Try to follow along but medication benefits can get confusing...

Medications are the opposite of treatment when it comes to getting the best bang for your buck.  Insurances will charge a much higher fee for medication than if you pay for it out of pocket.  In contrast, for the actual IVF treatment, it's much "cheaper" to go through insurance.

For example...
I was prescribed two pens of Gonal-f 900iu.  When I called Cigna to check the price through their pharmacy they told me one pen was $2,500.  At the mail-order pharmacy my clinic recommended, one pen was $990.  Less than half the cost!  The catch is that if I get the one that's $2,500 it goes towards my $15,000 fertility maximum.  So do I use that precious money on one medication or just pay $990 cash?

This same theory is applied to all of the insurances.  Because the insurances charge so much more for medications, you can usually only get a few of them for $5,000 and then will have to pay out of pocket for the others, or, in some cases, apply it towards your $15,000 medical benefits.

Here's the process I used to figure out where to purchase my medications.

First, call the insurance company.  Some insurance companies require you to fill these special fertility meds as a specific pharmacy.  So if you want to use your $5,000 benefit (if applicable) you cannot shop around.  This is good to know!  Most of these pharmacies will be able to give you a price estimate before you are active with their insurance.

I created an excel sheet to keep track of prices for meds at different pharmacies and for each insurance.

Second, call a specialty pharmacy.  My clinic preferred Encompass Specialty Pharmacy.  This is where they normally send their patient's prescriptions as they found they offer the best pricing.  Now, I'm not sure if they have a deal worked out between them to give patients from my clinic better pricing, or if that's their everyday pricing.  Some other specialty pharmacies people get meds from are Freedom Fertility and SMP Fertility Pharmacy.  There's tons of others so see what your clinic recommends.  Call them all if you want to try and get the best cash price!

Third, look international.  This is not for everyone, but you can get amazing deals on medications if you're willing to look out of the country.  Remember the medication that was $2,500 through insurance and $1000 from the recommended specialty pharmacy?  It was $460 from a pharmacy in London.  WHAT?!  My husband (and admittedly me) was wary of ordering meds from overseas.  They are not FDA approved (obviously) and their efficacy cannot be verified.  However, most of them are made by the same manufacturer as what you would get in the US, they just have European packaging.  Europe has more regulation on med prices (whereas in the US you can charge as much as you want) so that's why it's so much cheaper for the exact same thing.

The two international pharmacies I've heard of most people using are IVF Meds and Fast IVF.  You still need a legit prescription from your doctor that needs to be faxed or emailed to them before they will send you anything.  I'm sure there are many other options, but I just know people have had good experiences with these two and they both have a lot of other accreditation.  You definitely don't want to just go to some random pharmacy!

I ended up using a combination of all three of these options!

I used IVF Meds for two of the most expensive medications (Gonal-f and Cetrotide).  I had to make an account online, send them a copy of my prescription, and pay for the meds.  Paying was a little sketchy because they wanted a wire transfer and does any legit place use wire transfer in this day and age??  I had heard others used Mastercard but when I asked about that they said their card machines were down so wire was the only way.  Hey, when a girl wants to save some money, she will do just about anything!

I didn't realize I could wire from my bank's phone app so I went in to the bank to do it.  The girl helping me probably thought I was crazy because when she asked what country it was going to...I didn't know.  I had to find the email with all the information and I was like "looks like London...."  Then she asked what the money was for and I wasn't sure if I was allowed to say medications so I was like "uhhhhhh" and then she gave me a bunch of options so I chose "goods" hahahaha  Oh man I was just praying it all turned out fine!

The specialty pharmacy my clinic sent me to actually beat the international pharmacy on some of the meds, and some they were essentially the same so I got those there too.  Encompass also sent me alcohol swabs and a sharps disposal container to use.

Lastly, for some of the meds needed for the FET, I went through Cigna pharmacy.  They were only a few hundred dollars, as opposed to thousands, so it was definitely worth it to dip into the $15,000.

I have heard that you can pay cash for meds and then bill the insurance after the fact and hope they reimburse you for the cash price.  I have not tried this yet.  I also don't know if it makes a difference if it comes from a US pharmacy or overseas.  I'm definitely going to try this and will post an update with what I find out in the future!

Update: I spent a LONG time on the phone with multiple people from Cigna finding the answer to this question.  Long story short, if they are in network with the pharmacy, then you can submit a bill back to them for reimbursement.  If they are not in-network you can still do that but it will go towards your $15,000 AND your OON OOP max (which would be really stupid so don't do that!). 

Figuring out Finances: Your Clinic

Finances deserve an entire blog to themselves, let alone a post (or two).  They are so confusing when it comes to the IVF process!  I will try to keep things simple, but also give you an idea of what questions you should be asking and enough detail that things hopefully make sense and you can avoid common pitfalls.

When we originally met with our fertility clinic (2 years ago) they told us IVF generally costs $13,000-$15,000 out of pocket, plus your medications which are anywhere from $4,000-$6,000.  Whew, that's a lot of money!

The crazy thing is that when you use insurance, the costs are actually significantly less because your clinic has contracted rates with your insurance.  So the clinic may charge you $300 for an ultrasound, but they've agreed with Cigna to pay them $75 for an ultrasound.  And to make things even more confusing, they've agreed with UHC to pay them $50 for the same ultrasound (those are just made up numbers, I don't know the specifics!).  Every clinic is going to have different rates with each carrier because every clinic does their own negotiations.

First you must check to see which insurances your clinic is in-network with!  If the insurance isn't in-network with your clinic then don't use them.  You also want to make sure the insurance is in-network with the embryology lab, anesthesia, and any outside labs they send bloodwork to.  I lucked out that everything at my clinic was in-house, but I've heard other's stories who ended up with a big bill because they didn't realize part of the equation wasn't in-network.  Starbucks insurance still covers things out of network, but they don't cover as well so you'll have to pay more out of pocket.

I discovered my clinic has one helpful billing lady, and one not-so-helpful one.  Thankfully for the first consult, I dealt with the helpful one!  Even though I didn't have active insurance, I had printed out (from the Starbucks website) some of the plan breakdowns.  She, so kindly, gave me a cost estimate for the Cigna and Premara BC Gold plans.  All she needed to know was the deductible and the out-of-pocket max.  She plugged these numbers into her handy excel sheet and out popped an estimate!

I'm attaching these estimates so you can see how big a difference the price is with and without insurance.  Why is this important?  When people hear that Starbucks insurance covers $15,000 of infertility benefits, they assume this will cover one round of IVF, because if they've ever been quoted a price without insurance or looked on the internet, this is the general cost you see.  However, when it gets billed through insurance, it may only cost $6,000, so you could get two cycles (or more!) for $15,000!

Another reason I strongly encourage you do have a consult and meet with a financial counselor before your insurance becomes active, is so they can give you an estimate based on multiple insurances.  With my two estimates, you can see that Cigna will use almost $1500 less of the $15,000 than BCBS.  Note, this is the estimate only through the egg retrieval.  These do not include the transfer because we are doing that at a future date.

Cigna Cost Estimate
Total billed to Cigna: $5,207 

Blue Cross Price Estimate
Total billed to BC: $6,678

This is where helpful insurance lady and unhelpful insurance lady come in.  As I said, the helpful one gave me the estimates for both of these insurances.  When I called back a different day and talked to the other one (because the helpful one was on vacation for 2 weeks) she said it's their policy to not give more than one estimate as they cannot endorse a specific insurance company.

I tried explaining to her that I was in the unique situation of choosing between a few insurances and I wanted to get the most "bang for my buck."  In order to make the best decision, I needed to see what the cost would be for multiple insurances.  Why, with 4 insurance companies, would I just blindly pick one and hope for the best?!  That doesn't make any sense!!!!  She said they used to give you 20 estimates if you wanted but now they will only give one.  I told her I completely understood them not wanting to give 20, but I just wanted 2 more.  And honestly, the helpful lady got those numbers in a matter of minutes for me.  I was fuming (I've also had problems with their billing dept in the past telling me certain things were covered and then they weren't so I have a negative opinion of them in general, especially the unhelpful one who is technically the one assigned to me haha).

Okay another reason I like the helpful insurance lady is that she was upfront with me about how it is to work with the different insurance companies.  This is super important to ask your clinic!  Even though each insurance company offers $15,000 they have their own regulations on how to qualify for it and how many things need a pre-authorization (something your clinic has to submit to insurance asking for permission to perform "X" procedure before it's actually done).  The helpful insurance lady told me that from her experience, Cigna was the easiest to work with as they did not require any pre-authorization.  Aetna is very difficult to get things approved and they also usually require you to try 6 IUIs before paying for IVF (this depends on what your infertility is caused by).  She said BCBS will pay for things and then come back later and say they won't pay for it, and she didn't have much experience with UHC but believes they require pre-auth for a lot of infertility procedures.

Now, don't take anything I'm saying as law.  I'm sure every clinic and every person in every clinic will tell you a different story about each provider.  But I think asking your clinic if there is someone that is, from their experience, easier to work with, it can provide invaluable information.

Since I'd previously had a bad experience with my clinic's billing, it made a huge difference to hear that the helpful insurance lady liked Cigna because they were easy and you don't have to fight much with them to get claims paid.

Besides the costs billed to insurance, you will want to ask if there are any additional costs your clinic charges.  Mine charged $1000 for "cycle management" and "operating room supplies" for the egg retrieval process that they did not bill insurance.  They charge an additional $425 for "cycle management" for the FET.  So right off the bat, there's $1500 out of pocket I'm paying.  If you are choosing between multiple clinics, this is good to ask them this so you can make an informed decision!

Another great resource that I haven't mentioned yet, are the Starbucks Advocates.  Once you are a Starbucks partner, you can call these super nice people and ask them all sorts of questions about insurance.  They even have specific people that deal with the Starbucks infertility benefits!  These people have a lot of knowledge regarding which insurances need pre-auth and if there are qualifications you need to meet for certain ones to cover IVF.  They cannot give you cost estimates because each clinic will be different, but can tell you what's covered and what isn't.  Usually at the end of a conversation with one of them, I would always ask "Is there anything else you think I should know?"   I mean, if they are dealing with this stuff everyday they hear it all and if there's a mistake they see a lot of people making, I want to know about it!

How To Look at Benefit Costs

So you've been hired but haven't met the required hours for benefits yet?  No worries!  You can actually view your estimated cost per paycheck and view many details of the different plans available to you.

1) Go to www.mysbuxben.com.  Log On.


2.) Click "Explore Your Options"...that big coffee cup.


3)  Put in the password "ASH84".  Then click "compare costs and carriers."




4) Fill out the required information.



5) Now you can see which providers are available in your area and what the costs are for each benefit level!



If you scroll down the page, you can find answers to many more questions you probably have!

The IVF Consult

It's probably a good idea to go into your fertility clinic before your insurance kicks in so you can come up with a plan.  Now, if you don't have other insurance, this may not be covered and you'll end up paying out of pocket.  Many fertility clinics are booked out at least a few weeks (if not a few months!) so call as soon as you know this is the road you want to take.  You don't want to wait for your benefits to kick in and then have to wait 2 months before even having a consult.

As I've mentioned, we had been heading down this road for a while.  At our last appointment with them they basically said to call back when we made a decision about which road we wanted to head down (IUI vs IVF) and were financially ready.  I got an appointment for the beginning of May, which is 1 month before the insurance became active.

At this appointment, the doctor went over, in detail, our timeline for IVF and what the whole process entails.  She told us what medicines I'd be taking and what each of these are for, went over approximately how many times I would need to come into the clinic for monitoring, and answered most all of our questions regarding the process.

We decided to do a FET (frozen embryo transfer) which means that after the egg retrieval they would freeze the embryos and we would wait a couple of months before implanting one.  It's also a possibility to implant an embryo a few days after the egg retrieval.  This is called a "fresh transfer."  Which one you do is something you should talk to your doctor about.

Because I have a slight case of PCOS (polycystic ovary syndrome), I was at a higher risk to develop OHSS (ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome).  The doctor recommended a FET to give my body time to get back to normal from all the hormones and meds I was injecting everyday.  Before coming to the appointment, I had been researching fresh v frozen and liked the sound of frozen better anyways, so that worked out great!

Everything you do relating to fertility procedures revolves around your ovulation cycle (duh) and how your body reacts to the medications.  So usually you can't come up with a timeline until your period starts.  We decided we would start everything with my June period...whenever that would be.  See, this is why it's good to consult early, so you can start everything as close to insurance kicking in as possible!

After our consult with the doctor, we met with a nurse who went over all the medications in more detail.  She gave us lots of handouts to help us remember!  They also gave me the prescriptions and told me they called them into a specialty pharmacy.

Lastly, we met with a financial counselor to go over the estimated finances.

I refused to do bloodwork at this visit because I wanted to wait for insurance so it would go towards that deductible etc.  This didn't put me back any time because I'd had bloodwork in the past.  Again, know you can tell your provider you want to wait for certain tests if you want the Starbucks insurance to cover it, but it's possible it could push back your timeline.  Discuss all of this with your clinic to find the best solution for you!

Signing Off...for now

It's been a crazy year and a half but it's time to say goodbye to this blog for now.  I may post updates occasionally, but you know ...